Another frame ID please

[Scooter]

Hi all, I wondered if anyone can help ID my frame please.
I have briefly done some research online but I’m still not 100% sure on the model, I’ve been informed that it may be from around 1999 - 2001 era and possibly one of the F series ?
The serial number does’nt really relate to any on the data base on here?
Here’s some pics .


Non rear rack mounts on the mono seat stay
Disc and caliper Brake mounts
Cable guides on top of top tube
The remnant of paint inside the B.B. is red .
It weighs 3.4 lb (1548 grammes)
Would the forks be Ultra fatty headshok? They had the quarter lockout lever on the top and I believe 80mm of travel

Hope you guys can help me out on this one , my plan is to build her up soon as poss after I’ve chose a colour and hopefully I’d it

Thanks guys, scott.

 

[Brian]

The frame is a 2000. (L) is the date code. It looks like the original paint was a red or brownish. If you look thru the 2k and 2001 catalog to best match the color. and measure frame geometry. basically right now you have a blank slate...

do you have the parts to rebuild the fork?

 

[Scooter]

Great thanks Brian , I’ll take a look at those and check the measurements , the paint remnants are red as you say .
Yes I have all the parts to rebuild the forks, I purchased a set of new needle bearings as one of the old strips had broke .
Its been a few months now since I stripped the forks so I will need to refresh and cross reference on the procedure of assembly, it looks pretty fiddly and technical ? I was going to do dummy run before powder coating but now I’m thinking just do it after. It may not be a success as they weren’t working that well before removal but I’ll give it a go .
I have some pictures of one of the parts inside the fork that is showing some wear and I’ll need to get some advice on this piece so I’ll post some pictures of this soon , see what you think?
Thanks Brian .

 

[Scooter]

So Ive had search through those catalogues and although I can find any geometry I think I have narrowed it to these two which both came in viper red colour and both disc compatible.

2000 F700 caad3
Weight 3.7 lbs
Headshok fatty fork DL 70mm air sprung / oil damp travel

2001 F600 caad3
Weight ?
Headshok super fatty DL 80mm travel , lock out on the fly

I’m sure when I measured the travel on my forks they were 80mm before I stripped them and they do seem very beefy . So I’m leaning toward the 2001 F600 ..

 

[Scooter]

About that worn part in the fork,
Here’s some pics..

You can see some burring around the inside of the collar,
I think this piece caused one of needle bearings to migrate downwards and broke it.
I’m wondering wether to assemble again like this or wether to insert that cassette spacer which I have shown ?
I have carefully shaped it so it fits snugly inside I’ve shaped it so the inside of the ring has flats on it that follow the shape of the steerer tube but doesn’t rub it, it’s 1mm thick and hopefully would stop it happening again ?
Then again it could cause other issues..if it starts to rub
The original collar part is able to rotate around the steerer tube quite freely (I’m unsure if this is right? And the ring that I have shaped does not because of the flats , but still has some free movement to slide up and down.
I’m guessing that the bearings should stay up inside this collar when it’s in action .

Few.. hope this makes sense

Scott.

 

[Scooter]

A few more with the shaped ring in position

 

[black lightning 1987]

What about a 2000 F900? It was a disc frame and had fade paint with red at the BB.

 

[Scooter]

Hi black lightening ,
yes I did consider that as well , but then I ruled it out after noticing the top tube cable guide is sat underneath the tube rather than on the top. Mine & both the F600 & F700 are on top.
And I’ve noticed that I still have two very small remnants of red paint just on weld at the fork crown .

Would you have any idea why mine doesn’t have the rack mounts at the seat stay ?

Thanks scott

 

[black lightning 1987]

It seems bikes sold in Europe are often hard to ID. Colors often seem to vary from USA spec, so perhaps it's best to ignore that angle. CAAD3 frames appear to have the cable stops on top, CAAD4 and CAAD5 have them well below center-line of the tube. Your frame was made in July, so I'd guess it's a 2001 model. The 2001 F600 looks right, but it appears to have rack bosses in the stay. Only explanation I have (and just a guess) is that it's a Euro-spec thing.

 

[Scooter]

Thanks black lightening , but what about the serial number LG , Brian has dated it as the 2000 model , L=2000 , G=July .

Looking at the 2000 catalogue and disregarding the colour ive come up with these three which have the super fatty DL forks.

F800 Full Caliper & disc mounts
F700 No fork Caliper mounts
F500 Full Caliper & disc mounts


If the f700 specifically came with no Caliper mounts and euro colours could be different then that leaves the f800 & F500

 

[black lightning 1987]

That's the date the frame was produced. New models came out late in the summer. Being July production it may have been a 2001 model rather than a 2000. I have a bone stock 1998 Silk Road, everything fits the catalog description. It is stamped IK, so November 1997 production; also a 1999 R4000 stamped JI so September 1998 production; and a 1998 R4000 that is coded JC, March 1998. July is a hard call, I think it could be either model year. We need to identify the model years of some mid summer produced frames to have a better idea when the model year switch took place.

Planning a restoration? I would think you could just take your choice of the models that fit the frame details, then paint and build to suit.

 

[Scooter]

Ok thanks , yes that does make sense
I’m planning to build it up , it won’t be stock though as i only have the Stem , seat pin & Clamp. The rest will be a mixture from my old Specialized stumpjumper, SRAM 9 Speed groupset, mavic cross ride, wheels & probably avid juicy hydraulics.

The hardest part is going to be the fork rebuild, it needs to be powder coated before rebuilding them so I just hope it’s successful.

Would you have any idea on decal sets. There’s a few on eBay but quite limited for choice.

Thanks scott

 

[black lightning 1987]

I think there's another thread here that mentions someone that does headshok work.

I don't know where you can get the quad-wrap style decals. Velocals has a partial set that is close to those used on some early 2000s bikes:

http://www.velocals.com/cannondale-bicycle-decal-set/

You might check with Alan Wanta, Keith Anderson, Joe Bell, or someone in the UK that does a lot of repaints.

This set from a seller in Belgium would look about right on your frame:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cannondale-Decals-Set/263477659621?hash=item3d587e07e5:g:moEAAOSw2FxZ3Tc6

 

[Scooter]

Ok thanks black lightening , you’ve been a great help and just what I needed.

So Ive just ordered my powder coat from prismatic , now it’s just wait unti it arrives then send it all off for powdering.

I’ll report back when it’s done and hopefully have the forks mounted and working .

Thanks guys , back soon .

 

[Scooter]

So here’s the frame back with it’s new powder coat .
The forks are also now mounted after some very painstaking hours to assemble them correctly .

 

[black lightning 1987]

Wow, that looks great. What's the color called? How are you building it?

 

[Scooter]

It’s a candy Red , im not sure the colour code but it’s a super chrome base coat with the red on top .

I don’t have any period correct parts so I’ll be using a mixture or parts that came of my old stumpy , sram x7 triple 9 speed , Shimano hollow tech Chainset, Mavic cross trail rims , avid juicy brakes .

Maybe a little while but I’ll post up some more pics when I get building .

 

[Scooter]

It been a long time but I’ve now finished the build .

 

[black lightning 1987]

It looks great. You might try to locate P clips of the right size to mount to cantilever bosses for brake hose routing.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Aluminium-...03a0a3a7:m:mdTjgOtwm72V_paUEjJN61A:rk:10:pf:0

 

[Scooter]